Bonfire Ascetics Advice please

Could someone please give me some advice on the best tactics for use of the bonfire ascetics. The con's, and pro's. To do the best posseble playthrough

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Hey wise, I feel your pain, but the bonsfire require progess in the game to unlock, and that only comes from downing bosses. To help you out, there is a bonfire by the undead church, that you should go after (if you havent) and it doesnt require a key to
unlock any doors. Also there is a bonfire in the sewers, however it will require a key. By the time you get to the basement, you will see that the bonfire locations are there for a reason.

 

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im tired of getting set back 30 mins everytime i die. so, i have decided to move towards the next bonfire as my objective. they cant be as far apart as it seems.

 

Really, the only use for them is to obtain items from the next new game cycle without going into the next new game cycle. For instance, if you're playing a pyromancer build, using an ascetic in the Saltfort to kill the Last Sinner is beneficial, because
it allows you to get the soul item you need to trade with Straid for Flame Weapon (and the red phantoms won't spawn if you use ascetics). Or, if you're trying to farm an item that doesn't drop, you can ascetic the area and get more opportunities to farm that
item. There's actually a technique you can do to farm awestones that allows you to get the Vanquisher's Seal with 4 ascetics and only killing a few bosses.

The cons are that it puts that bonfire and the enemies/boss at the next NG cycle of difficulty. When you go into your next NG cycle, all the bonfires will increase difficulty by one, including the ones that you've used an ascetic on. For instance, if you
take the bonfire intensity of the Saltfort up to 2 in order to get Flame Weapon, when you go into NG+ and all the other bonfires are at intensity 2, the Saltfort bonfire will go to intensity 3.

 

Thx mate Anything else you can tell me? some especially good bonfires to ascetic to farm for ore? some really good items you just have to have besides flameweapon? I only have very limitet exp beyond NG so anything whould help really

 

You need to kill Freja in NG+ (or beyond) to get the soul required for both crystal soul spear and the moonlight greatsword. So, if you want both, you'll need to ascetic her bonfire twice.

I think you can open up access to NG++ spells and items sold be Chancellor Wellager, although I'm not sure which bonfire to use for that.

There's the Vanquisher's Seal trick (use of 4 ascetics in the first bonfire of the Grave of Saints allows you to farm 48 awestones).

If you want to farm ore, there are various spots you could do that depending on what type you need. But, really, the best way to do that is to just beat Nashandra and then buy a bunch from the woman who sells it in Majula, unless you need twinkling. In
that case, you could try using an ascetic in Dragon Aerie.

 

Thx Again I dont think I quite realised how extencive this whould become, and I should probable look to the wiki-guide, instead of having you write me the entire chapter on ascetics LoL but thx for the help. This is deffinately breaking new ground for me,
and a new way of progressing through the game. Im going to have to see if I can figure it out?

 

possibly farming the dragons "arie?" for crystal lizards and dragon bones there is no boss there.

 

Yes I thought of that, but then Theres the dragons. I Wonder just exactly how hard they whould become with an ascetic, or two? I suppose if it comes Down to it you can allways make a run for it LoL

 

The dragons in that part are stupid easy to kill if you have a bow and poison arrows. The only one I've ever had trouble with is the second dragon in the rotundra area, but then I found out if you stay close and melee he hardly ever breathes fire at you.
I think I've farmed that area 4 times. You can also farm the giant lord for souls, but I wouldn't recommend that unless the character you're using isn't going to be used online.

 

So you say go for the dragons. I read about some ppl that was farming the giantlord for souls. I can hardly imagine doing this as I could barely kill him once, and I whould deffinately need a bigger bow if the difficulty went up, but aparently it pays good
to do so. Why shouldent I do so if I want to use my character online?

 

Because matchmaking is done by soul memory. Pumping up your souls might make it more difficult to find co-op help (or help people in co-op if that's what you want) and opens you up to higher tier invasions.

 

Aha OK I actually have that problem quite often. I allways need just a couple of levels more, so I do a lot of summoning, and then when I need a phantom for myself I cant seem to find any LoL BTW what happens to the matchmaking when you ascetic a bonfire.
Can you still find someone to summon from NG when the bonfire is at level 2, or whould it have to be someone with the same bonfire intencity=NG+, and within the same SM range. Im thinking you might struggle to find someone within the same SM-range on NG+ if
you youreself are still on NG, but only have this particular bonfire on +2?

 

If you ascetic to NG+ you still summon people from NG.

 

Thx a lot. I was thinking you could ascetic all the bonfires to get all the items, and just stay in NG with an outragously high level, but I can kinda forsee you whould quickly run into a problem with youre soul-memory becomming too high to find anyone to
summon. what do you think R3dPO1nt? Better to just go strait to NG+, or be very selective about the items you pick up, and the bonfires you ascetic? I should probable Consult the Wiki-guide to make sure I picked up the right items, and awoided that my SM goes
up too much