Best non dlc stuff?

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  1. Best non dlc stuff?


    I like the ability to fill my own gems but I don't soul trap for the hell of it so I only go hunting when I want to make something and don't have a gem for it. Most of the time I don't even carry the bow or gems. These days, I have cut down what I carry
    to a bare minimum and get irritated with myself when I open chests and loot bodies for more than my arrows.

    I really wish games balanced loot better so that good stuff showed up more frequently early and there was a good reason to still loot late game. I know some people loot because it's there and that's good for them but there could be some good use for it.
    A really good example from Skyrim. It takes a long time to get all the unusual gems. There are a lot of them and some are in places it is foolish to attempt early; yet, once you get them and give them to Vex the reward is an overabundance of gems in every
    chest. I have no reason to use them and can't display them easily so they irritate me when I continue to pick them up and just go into a chest when I do.
     
    The Lady Bastet, Mar 21, 2014
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  2. WC Sarge
    WC Sarge Guest
    Yes TLB, absolutely.

    I was a pauper for levels 1-30, making a living at 30-50 and stinking rich after somewhere in the 50s. -- which kinda tracks with my IRL bank too (/ Rodney Dangerfield voice) I suppose I should/could buy some more properties, but it wouldn't help my game
    (style) any.

    I have been keeping some of the lower grade weapons I loot, in case I re-up my smithing.
     
    WC Sarge, Mar 21, 2014
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  3. Vairkjosa
    Vairkjosa Guest
    Haha! I try to only keep one of a kind now. One of my personal goals was to carry more than a million gold in my pocket. As you have pointed out, lower levels were spent in poverty and nearly everything I picked up was too heavy or junk. Now when I check
    my storage places they have only 1 of each item. I spend an awful lot of time selling items that are pretty cool. It would be nice to send them to someone that could use them. As you know, I don't use magic much so a Staff is not in my inventory but I have
    sold some pretty cool Staff's.
     
    Vairkjosa, Mar 21, 2014
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  4. Best non dlc stuff?

    Two destruction staffs look fantastic crossed behind either an elven or a dwarf shield. I like them better than swords. I used to put staffs on the weapon racks in the house entries but had one used against me by a bandit so i made sure after that to use
    only low level or innocuous staffs if I did.
     
    The Lady Bastet, Mar 21, 2014
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  5. You know, one thing I never did to make money early that is actually a pretty good money maker especially if done with a triple buff to bartering which is easily done in Solitude. General stores will buy dragon bones and dragon scales and they are worth
    a lot of gold.
     
    The Lady Bastet, Mar 21, 2014
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  6. WC Sarge
    WC Sarge Guest
    :triple buff to bartering which is easily done in Solitude:

    please explain. necklace plus mask of clavius vile plus .....? I never really got lucky with the bartering 'thang. Or do you mean some perks as well?
     
    WC Sarge, Mar 21, 2014
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  7. Actually, you can do a quadruple bufff and I suppose it could go to 5 with the mask, I've never used the mask. One is to give a coin to the old soldier, 2 is go to the temple and get a blessing of zenithar, 3 is use an amulet of zenithar or dibella but zenithar
    is better and 4 is use a potion of barter. The coin and temple are just easier to get in Solitude than anywhere else though I always put zenithar and arkay in my basement. Since every little bit helps even a basic beginner potion is good.
     
    The Lady Bastet, Mar 21, 2014
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  8. Vairkjosa
    Vairkjosa Guest

    Best non dlc stuff?

    Anything to up your speech is good too. I think if I'm not mistaken, early in one game I was getting about a 50% boost to barter with a mask, Dibella necklace and a potion after I gave one of the beggars a gold coin. It does make some difference early when
    your trying to get the "Garage" in Whiterun. lol!
     
    Vairkjosa, Mar 21, 2014
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  9. Garage? I always looked on it as a barn. That's one thing that always bothered me about Skyrim. Everything looked dingy and dirty. Just because you build with rough boards doesn't mean you can't cut a straight edge and butt them properly. And the dirty faces!
    I mean, sure, there are no showers to be seen but still, Alvor has a river outside his house surely he can wash his face and hands after work. I have trouble believing Sigrid was up to a cuddle if he smelled like a forge and was covered in soot.

    Dibella grants a boost to speech but Zenithar grants a boost to barter and so is best to use if trading. Dibella is best if trying to persuade. The beggers give a boost to speechcraft as well. Solitude is the only town that has an altar to Zenithar (that
    I know of) and since I had to buy arrows a lot I would run in get my blessings, put on my amulet and swig a potion then buy and sell. Then I would run by the temple or the house of the dead and renew Arkay before heading out into the wild.
     
    The Lady Bastet, Mar 21, 2014
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  10. Vairkjosa
    Vairkjosa Guest
    Hmnn! and all this time I thought I was getting a bargain either way. Dibella or Zenithar. Not sure but west of Whiterun, there is a little shrine, maybe the Horn one. Can't remember all of them right now. Head to the second Giant Camp and then North. It's
    unmarked but that's where I found one of the necklaces for his shrine in the basement. The necklace is on the ground sometimes and hard to see. I think it's Zenithar's.

    So your saying speech does less or no effect on buying and selling?
     
    Vairkjosa, Mar 21, 2014
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  11. No, it gives a good effect, that's why gift of charity works but I had both amulets and being of the sort to over think things I experimented and found that all other things being equal, a Zenithar amulet and blessing was better with a vendor than Dibella.
    After I make my own amulet or potion I no longer needed to go through all the motions. My speechcraft is reasonably high and a 59% better barter means I but at cost and sell at cost which is good enough. All I really care about is sticking it to Belathor and
    the snobby sisters in Solitude.
     
    The Lady Bastet, Nov 1, 2018
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  12. The Lady Bastet Win User

    Best non dlc stuff?

    No, it gives a good effect, that's why gift of charity works but I had both amulets and being of the sort to over think things I experimented and found that all other things being equal, a Zenithar amulet and blessing was better with a vendor than Dibella.
    After I make my own amulet or potion I no longer needed to go through all the motions. My speechcraft is reasonably high and a 59% better barter means I but at cost and sell at cost which is good enough. All I really care about is sticking it to Belathor and
    the snobby sisters in Solitude.
  13. Dont Be A Derp Win User

    Best non dlc stuff?

    It shouldnt require recharging at all with fortify destruction since the spark has more power than the fiery soul trap.
  14. The Lady Bastet Win User

    Best non dlc stuff?

    Sorry, I misread . Still, it shouldn't require charging that often. Is it really draining? I only like soul trap by itself so it doesn't waste soul gems. If I want to hunt, I do.
  15. The Lady Bastet Win User

    Best non dlc stuff?

    Soul Trap is not a destruction spell but a conjuration spell so you would need both destruction and conjuration free for it to never need charging. But, a 1 second soul trap gives a batch of charges so it shouldn't require much to charge it. I always recharged
    mine with petty soul gems before I got free conjuration.
  16. Dont Be A Derp Win User

    Best non dlc stuff?

    Still it would be alot easier to just use the spell over the potion unless your going for a major archery or magic shot.

    I love that I can go invisible, knife someone in the back (with invisibility ready beforehand), then go right back to being invisible after the kill.

    Makes it so much easier when clearing out groups of enemies with lines of sight to each other.
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