20percent gpu boost with dx12 on xbox

f00xm4n · Mar 5, 2015

Well after reading the proper dev notes about fable, I can say for sure that those same benefits will effect the xbox one in a positive way, they have basically rewritten the draw/dispatch so it does not have idle time. This allowed for FPS increases or
more importantly (sorry SDF) a res increase from 900p to 1080p at no loss of frame rate.

Yes this was on a PC, but the same PC saw this increase, just as the same xbox will see the same if not similar increase.

N7 Gh0stz · Mar 5, 2015

when did i mention ran did i even say ran no i said ps4 and pc troll i said pc as its normally the pc trolls that say things like pc master race and the ps4 trolls just troll thats y i said pc as well as ps4. dont assume stuff. i like reading rans stuff
aswell he talks sence unlike Lloydy

N7 Gh0stz · Mar 5, 2015

i dont expect the gpu in the xbox to be more powerful but DX12 will give the devs better tools which in turn will make games better

YellowJacket LE · Mar 5, 2015

@Lofty..exactly what i was thinking the other day. The 360 launch titles as fun as they are weren't mind blowing graphical wise(with maybe the exception being Condemned) but the One launch titles came out swinging. Every time i play Ryse which is still one
of my favorite games i am still blown away by it's beauty and the fact it was a beautiful launch game that early in the One's life was a very good sign of things to come

tohellnbak · Mar 5, 2015

@ Rand

Turn 10 did exactly that with Forza 5. It took them 4 months to make a DX12 build and they demo'd it running Titan Blacks rather than on a One. Why?

if I remember correctly.. it was just a single sectoin of a small part of a full game just to showcase... it was not the whole game.... and it was basic DX tools parting an XB to PC... had nothing really to do with the benefits of DX, just the ease of porting..
not a 100% rebuild

N7 Gh0stz · Mar 5, 2015

i dont get what ur saying tohel are u saying dx12 will effect xbox one games

Randver · Mar 5, 2015

@tohellnbak

As far as why they did it you may be correct I don't think I've ever seen an explanation of the purpose in doing the DX12 build for a PC.

I don't think anyone got real excited when they found out that Forza 5 could run at 1080p/60 on a PC with Titan Blacks when it already did that on the One. If MS and the developers are so confident that DX12 will show these huge gains then that was the perfect
opportunity to showcase it.

From my point of view....we all know the One is capable of 1080p/60 it's a matter of the developers doing their job. If Win10/DX12 gives us 1080p/80 on the same games then to me it's not worth the risk involved in going to launch 2.0 with the One. There
are still issues with the current OS so I'd prefer they fix those and give us new features rather than having us start over again.

Lofty Who · Mar 5, 2015

Again I don't know what/if any benefits DX12 will bring to the table but talking of Forza ...

When Forza 6 was announced not so long back I remember reading some tweets the next day, I think it was even posted on here that ...

"Forza 6 was rumoured to be the first/first party game to use DX12 on Xbox One" ..

I know E3 is suppose to be the place where we will see gameplay footage of Forza 6, hear more information about it but I wonder if it will use DX12?

Randver · Mar 5, 2015

Forza 6 has a holiday 2015 release date to coincide with the release of the new Ford GT. They'd have to be pretty far into development to hit that date so with so many unknowns on when we'll see DX12 to the PC let alone the One I don't see how they can be
using DX12.

I don't see any official announcements that they are using it. Forza 6 is making a big deal of the game releasing with the release of a real car so I don't think they can afford a delay.

My concern we'll start seeing games being delayed while developers go through the learning curve of developing for DX12. I don't think the difference we'll see on our TV screens with DX12 games justifies the risk. I don't ever remember any DX release giving
me a "wow" factor when looking at the new games, it's hardware upgrades (360 to One or replacing an old PC GPU with a new one) that give you the "wow" factor.

N7 Gh0stz · Mar 5, 2015

delayed games on xbox one is never good but if it improves the game then i am happy. when they showed that froza 5 demo on a pc was there a scale or something to show you the dif between the fps or something there was a point to it

Lofty Who · Mar 5, 2015

@ Randver ...

I done Google search about Forza 6 and DX12 and apparently Turn 10 posted on the Forza forums saying Forza 6 wouldn't be using DX12 so it was just another rumour.

tohellnbak · Oct 31, 2018

@Rand

The DX 12 forza was to show how easily an XB game could be ported to a PC using DX12 SDKs... meaning with the ease of use, a game like F5 in a few weeks could be made to play on a PC...the specs were insignificant at that time...

N7 Gh0stz

delayed games on xbox one is never good but if it improves the game then i am happy. when they showed that froza 5 demo on a pc was there a scale or something to show you the dif between the fps or something there was a point to it

N7 Gh0stz

i dont expect the gpu in the xbox to be more powerful but DX12 will give the devs better tools which in turn will make games better

N7 Gh0stz

when did i mention ran did i even say ran no i said ps4 and pc troll i said pc as its normally the pc trolls that say things like pc master race and the ps4 trolls just troll thats y i said pc as well as ps4. dont assume stuff. i like reading rans stuff
aswell he talks sence unlike Lloydy

Guerrero Ultimo

"Shouldn't the thread title be "PC Version of Fable sees 20% performance increase on DX12 compared to DX11"?"

Not really. If they can see a 20% increase on the same PC hardware with DX12 not reason they cannot pull that off on the One. Not to mention that this is early. DX12 will see improvements as we go along as well. This will improve things even more so
this is a nice bump already for all hardware utilizing DX12.

"Until we can run the old fuel and the new fuel in the same car it's all speculation. They can tell us that game X is running 80 percent faster with DX12 but without a DX11 version it means nothing.

I think the PC will definitely see performance gains with new hardware but looking at the DX release history with existing hardware the gains have been minimal or non-existent."

You cannot measure performance games with new hardware. That would be the new hardware's performance. These gains have to be measured with the same hardware because saying more powerful hardware sees a % gain over weaker hardware is given usually.

I am sure they are talking same hardware. We will see many tests showing whatever performance there is gained on the same hardware with DX12. It will be a good percentage as well no doubts. This would translate to the One because even though the One hardware
is not changing the performance gains will be due to better API performance. And API performance can make a pretty good difference.

skys7

So there we go Phil explained it in a nice way.

No one can be offended or sad now.

20percent gpu boost with dx12 on xbox