20percent gpu boost with dx12 on xbox

ps. again I did learn I should not be lazy and check those infos my self LOL

But its so fun to be surprised in a good or bad way (;

 

@HaloJolly it is surely good news for devs if it makes games easier and less time consuming to make. And that benefit would surely filter to us, the gamers. I just think the thread title is misleading seeing as it isn't true.

 

Lloyd

you are referring to optimizing over a period of time.. as all platforms do.. including your beloved... difference is.... this is not an optimization SDK... these are new sets of rules...new ways games will be written

Taking a game that was designed for and built for DX11 and then redo the game using the DX12 tools and software and gaining a 50%/20% upgrade over DX11 in a one shot deal is totally different from being able to tweak something that is permanent here and
there over the course of a lifetime...

take the car scenario everyone loves to use..

we can all agree a car has an engine a transmission and exhaust... correct? ok you spends weeks fine tuning the spark plugs, changing the gear ratios, adjusting the tire pressure to achieve maximum HP and MPH and MPG

MS just invented a new fuel to use instead of Gasoline (petrol to you English chaps) that will take that stock engine with no tweaks or adjustments and it gained 50% more HP, 20% more MPG and the top speed went from 125MPH to 175MPH with nothing more but
a new type of fuel

 

Lloydy Can i ask why after so many months you decide to show up when some news was broken?you clearly do not own an xbox one you clearly hate it as i see many posts on the ps forum of you doing nothing but putting it down..

am affraid your one of them trolls who come out when any news about the xbox comes out

 

he will respond with a I owned a 360.. and I have a right to be here as it is a public forum.. his usual responses... then shortly later a silver account will show up and side with him and he will have a conversation with that silver until the thread gets
locks...

its like clock work

 

MS just invented a new fuel to use instead of Gasoline (petrol to you English chaps) that will take that stock engine with no tweaks or adjustments and it gained 50% more HP, 20% more MPG and the top speed
went from 125MPH to 175MPH with nothing more but a new type of fuel

MS keeps telling us that yet they won't put the fuel in an actual car so we can see for ourselves.

Until we can run the old fuel and the new fuel in the same car it's all speculation. They can tell us that game X is running 80 percent faster with DX12 but without a DX11 version it means nothing.

I think the PC will definitely see performance gains with new hardware but looking at the DX release history with existing hardware the gains have been minimal or non-existent.

 

If you have to put fuel in your computer I wonder why you dont switch to a actual computer.

I mean never have I seen that.

You sure you dont confuse this with cooling liquid? (;

I see it like this as long as Xbox LIVE updates it Xbox One and makes it smoother I will play it.

If I find something else that is way faster I might play my Xbox less and maybe play Xbox LIVE on a PC.

Depending on who has the software and hardware I wait for.

 

In time Rand... In time... not sure what you want tho?? do you want them to rewrite BF4 from scratch using the DX12 codes just to prove to you and a few other people it makes the games run better? I mean seriously.. what do you want to see?

 

@tohellnbak

Turn 10 did exactly that with Forza 5. It took them 4 months to make a DX12 build and they demo'd it running Titan Blacks rather than on a One. Why?

I have no doubt DX12 will improve gaming performance in newer hardware on PC's, it's always done it in the past. I'm not expecting to see much on current hardware.

 

"Shouldn't the thread title be "PC Version of Fable sees 20% performance increase on DX12 compared to DX11"?"

Not really. If they can see a 20% increase on the same PC hardware with DX12 not reason they cannot pull that off on the One. Not to mention that this is early. DX12 will see improvements as we go along as well. This will improve things even more so
this is a nice bump already for all hardware utilizing DX12.

"Until we can run the old fuel and the new fuel in the same car it's all speculation. They can tell us that game X is running 80 percent faster with DX12 but without a DX11 version it means nothing.

I think the PC will definitely see performance gains with new hardware but looking at the DX release history with existing hardware the gains have been minimal or non-existent."

You cannot measure performance games with new hardware. That would be the new hardware's performance. These gains have to be measured with the same hardware because saying more powerful hardware sees a % gain over weaker hardware is given usually.

I am sure they are talking same hardware. We will see many tests showing whatever performance there is gained on the same hardware with DX12. It will be a good percentage as well no doubts. This would translate to the One because even though the One hardware
is not changing the performance gains will be due to better API performance. And API performance can make a pretty good difference.

 

@Guerrero

You can measure performance with new hardware, they are already doing it with the Star Swarm tech demo. The newer PC GPU's saw significant performance gains over the older GPU's because the hardware is designed to take advantage of what DX12 is bringing
to the table.

A Nvidia 900 series card may see a 150 percent gain yet a 500 series may see no more than 10 percent (comparing same gpu to gpu with DX11 and DX12). The question with the One is where will it's hardware fall into the performance increases.

 

I was wondering how long it would be before the ps4 and pc trolls came along.

 

How is me discussing DX12 putting me in the PC or PS4 trolling category?

Mods need to start banning people that make post like yours, it brings nothing to the discussion and simply brings threads to lock status.

 

Ghosts mate i dont think they are trolls... Rand especially has made perfectly valid points and points that I, as a techie by trade, completely understand.

We xboxers seem to think this is going to be some magic gogo juice and get instant gains, which just isnt going to happen. We will see benefits over time rather than straight away (imo of course)

 

^ I don't think Randver is a Troll ( don't like using the word ) I like reading his posts but a lot of this goes totally over my head as I just don't understand it all but ...

Even I had the feeling last night reading a lot of the Xbox fanboys post on Twitter about this 50% and 20% boosts in performance was 'slightly' exaggerated but I guess only time will tell.

In my opinion and both Rander and Yellow mentioned it ( can't remember if it was this thread or another ) I'm already happy with the Xbox One performance and even without DX12 consoles improve with time. Just look back at the Xbox 360 and it's very first
games to what games looked like etc a few years later.

I totally believe what developers have said, it will make things easier for them but like iBakez said above, I don't think it's going to be some magical gogo juice that's going to double the Xbox One's power etc.

Just enjoy your games